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Re: Cave Arcade Sales Tracker Spreadsheet
« Reply #240 on: April 08, 2020, 06:26:27 PM »

Also the notes can read that it's from BEEP (they sell on YAJ).



The seller of this Ibara PCB, yugen2plus, is not BEEP. It is a company based in Kanagawa. What is BEEP's YAJ account?

EDIT: Found the answer:
https://twitter.com/BEEP_SHOP/status/1176708307748294657

BEEP does not sell on YAJ, but they put some items for sale on consignment through the seller yugen2plus.
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Re: Cave Arcade Sales Tracker Spreadsheet
« Reply #241 on: April 10, 2020, 08:43:45 PM »

Also the notes can read that it's from BEEP (they sell on YAJ).



The seller of this Ibara PCB, yugen2plus, is not BEEP. It is a company based in Kanagawa. What is BEEP's YAJ account?

EDIT: Found the answer:
https://twitter.com/BEEP_SHOP/status/1176708307748294657

BEEP does not sell on YAJ, but they put some items for sale on consignment through the seller yugen2plus.

I don't know if this is true, but I've been told yugen2plus is a shill account used by BEEP to increase their bids. I haven't analyzed this enough, as I don't really care. I bid what I want to pay and don't go beyond.

Also, the seller for that cheap Ibara this week reneged on the sale and did not mail the game out, so I guess it did not sell that cheaply.

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Re: Cave Arcade Sales Tracker Spreadsheet
« Reply #242 on: April 13, 2020, 05:39:29 PM »
Muchi Muchi Pork boxed kit sold for 229,800 yen:

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/o360209033

Doesn't look like a proxy bidder.
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Re: Cave Arcade Sales Tracker Spreadsheet
« Reply #243 on: May 01, 2020, 12:04:22 PM »
DoDonPachi DOJ PCB with black label ROM and blue metal case sold for £650 plus shipping (£680 total final).

https://forum.arcadeotaku.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=41384

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Re: Cave Arcade Sales Tracker Spreadsheet
« Reply #244 on: May 03, 2020, 11:16:19 AM »
Dodonpachi Daioujou with Metal Case sold for 700 $ US on shmups.system11 forum. (New fan and coin cell battery mod)

https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=66462

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Re: Cave Arcade Sales Tracker Spreadsheet
« Reply #245 on: May 03, 2020, 02:48:48 PM »
Dodonpachi Daioujou with Metal Case sold for 700 $ US on shmups.system11 forum. (New fan and coin cell battery mod)

https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=66462

Actually sold at $650 to my buddy Kiel. Not sure how to notate stuff like that when it's not listed as such in a thread...

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Re: Cave Arcade Sales Tracker Spreadsheet
« Reply #246 on: May 07, 2020, 11:22:17 PM »
Akai Katana PCB sold at Suruga-ya for 354,000 yen:

https://www.suruga-ya.jp/product/detail/180001265

It took a long time to sell this as their original price was 420,000 yen and this has been in stock since last year! They put it on sale many times though, including dropping it to 329,000 yen two weeks ago (which is the lowest they offered it). Finally someone nabbed it when it was on sale yesterday for 354k.
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Re: Cave Arcade Sales Tracker Spreadsheet
« Reply #247 on: May 10, 2020, 09:00:01 PM »
Japanese Dodonpachi PCB (no repairs, working fully) sold for 120,000 yen at auction. Doesn't look like a proxy bidder bought it:

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u351786768

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Re: Cave Arcade Sales Tracker Spreadsheet
« Reply #248 on: May 22, 2020, 10:54:57 AM »
An "untested" Deathsmiles II (with original box + instruction sheet) sold for 302,000 yen, at auction (doesn't look like a proxy bidder):

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/auction/q352913462

I'm scratching my head as to why this sold for so much. Seller said it hasn't been used in 10 years and worked the last time he used it but can't test it now.

A confirmed broken one sold for 150,000 yen just now  :-[

The metal CAVE case and I/O board are essentially what you're paying for.

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Re: Cave Arcade Sales Tracker Spreadsheet
« Reply #249 on: May 28, 2020, 10:17:43 PM »
Ketsui PCB + Move strip + Marquee + Instruction sheet sold on YAJ for 83 000 Yen.

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f419007074


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Re: Cave Arcade Sales Tracker Spreadsheet
« Reply #250 on: May 28, 2020, 10:48:09 PM »
Ketsui PCB + Move strip + Marquee + Instruction sheet sold on YAJ for 83 000 Yen.

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f419007074

It should be noted that PCB had a fresh battery installed (which is a good thing!).

Looks like a proxy bidder bought it.
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Re: Cave Arcade Sales Tracker Spreadsheet
« Reply #251 on: May 30, 2020, 04:50:44 PM »
-Akai Katana PCB with original artset (everything looks pretty minty) sold for 360,000 yen, at auction (one bid):

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c824809349

Doesn't look like a proxy bidder.

-Mushihimesama (no-dot MASTER VER) + original A4 marquee, movestrip and box (all in poor condition) sold for 100,000 yen, at auction (one bid):

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/x700680599

Looks like a proxy bidder bought this one.
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Re: Cave Arcade Sales Tracker Spreadsheet
« Reply #252 on: May 30, 2020, 06:29:44 PM »
Saw this one as well. Auction 1 bid.

Ibara + Art and Box (some damage) = 150,000 yen

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/s734238992

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Re: Cave Arcade Sales Tracker Spreadsheet
« Reply #253 on: May 30, 2020, 07:25:31 PM »
That's very pricey for an Ibara, but the box is in pretty good shape even though it's the wrong box for this PCB (it's a CAVE-AMI Ver 2 box, which are more sought after actually, and thus tend to sell for more). The art is all copied, btw. Looks like a proxy bidder bought it.
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Re: Cave Arcade Sales Tracker Spreadsheet
« Reply #254 on: May 31, 2020, 11:26:51 AM »
Just won this ESP Ra.De. loose PCB for 60,000 yen from YAJ. Not the greatest deal but for a CAVE board these days, I'll say is not bad.

I was the only bidder so I hope I don't get a lemon :-[ What worries me is the absent of a sticker with the serial number and the stickers on the EPROMs are clean white. Could've been reprogrammed? I mean, the Atlus logo is on the PCB so it's a genuine Japanese version. I haven't been in the loop of PCBs for a looong time. Should I be worried about anything? The ingame picture looks a little washed out but that could be due to many factors.

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Re: Cave Arcade Sales Tracker Spreadsheet
« Reply #255 on: May 31, 2020, 04:48:16 PM »
Lack of a serial number is probably why it sold for so cheap. I know I would not buy a PCB that didn't have a serial number on it (well, unless it was REALLY cheap).

Is it possible it is a conversion of another Atlus PCB?
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Re: Cave Arcade Sales Tracker Spreadsheet
« Reply #256 on: May 31, 2020, 06:23:46 PM »
That's very pricey for an Ibara, but the box is in pretty good shape even though it's the wrong box for this PCB (it's a CAVE-AMI Ver 2 box, which are more sought after actually, and thus tend to sell for more). The art is all copied, btw. Looks like a proxy bidder bought it.

How could you tell the art was a copy EOJ?

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Re: Cave Arcade Sales Tracker Spreadsheet
« Reply #257 on: May 31, 2020, 06:33:08 PM »
It says so in the description.  ;)
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Re: Cave Arcade Sales Tracker Spreadsheet
« Reply #258 on: May 31, 2020, 10:14:36 PM »
Lack of a serial number is probably why it sold for so cheap. I know I would not buy a PCB that didn't have a serial number on it (well, unless it was REALLY cheap).

Is it possible it is a conversion of another Atlus PCB?

That's what I thought but then, I found this post. According to Mike who's knowledgeable about hardware and altering code on the chips said only the region can be converted on this type of boards. If I'm not mistaken, only the Japanese region of ESP Ra. De. has the Atlus logo on the PCB so if all this is true, I only have one explanation for a reprogram job, updating the first version that had a scoring bug with the second. I'll check the version of the board once I receive it.

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Re: Cave Arcade Sales Tracker Spreadsheet
« Reply #259 on: May 31, 2020, 11:59:05 PM »
It says so in the description.  ;)

Haha I need to use google translate more :)

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Re: Cave Arcade Sales Tracker Spreadsheet
« Reply #260 on: June 01, 2020, 12:05:51 AM »
That is correct.  All of the early CAVE PCBs (68K based) are custom jobs and wholesale conversions/bootlegs do not exist.  The only "conversions" that can be made are swapping the ROMs to change region or game revision, but you would still need a legit board to do it.  That ESP Ra.DE. is 100% a legit Japanese version, it's just missing the serial and had the ROMs swapped or reprogrammed for some reason.  In fact, the ROM chips look exactly the same as the ones on my board (same markings/brand), they are just missing the numbers on the white labels.

In fact, the only bootleg CAVE games out there are the PGM based ones (Edit: Progear CPS2 bootlegs also exist), and even those look absolutely nothing like the originals and are easy to spot.

I suppose that conversions of the CV1000 games are possible, as CAVE themselves did this all the time, but I've never seen one that was done outside of the ones released directly from CAVE.  Even then, you would need to start with a "cheap" game like Mushihimesama or Espgaluda II in order to even make one, and most bootleggers and lowlifes wouldn't go through the trouble with that big of an upfront cost.

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Re: Cave Arcade Sales Tracker Spreadsheet
« Reply #261 on: June 01, 2020, 01:32:38 AM »
Thanks for confirming all the info, peg! Very interesting stuff. And sorry for deviating from the main topic.

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Re: Cave Arcade Sales Tracker Spreadsheet
« Reply #262 on: June 03, 2020, 08:12:12 AM »
That is correct.  All of the early CAVE PCBs (68K based) are custom jobs and wholesale conversions/bootlegs do not exist.  The only "conversions" that can be made are swapping the ROMs to change region or game revision, but you would still need a legit board to do it.  That ESP Ra.DE. is 100% a legit Japanese version, it's just missing the serial and had the ROMs swapped or reprogrammed for some reason.  In fact, the ROM chips look exactly the same as the ones on my board (same markings/brand), they are just missing the numbers on the white labels.

In fact, the only bootleg CAVE games out there are the PGM based ones (Edit: Progear CPS2 bootlegs also exist), and even those look absolutely nothing like the originals and are easy to spot.

I suppose that conversions of the CV1000 games are possible, as CAVE themselves did this all the time, but I've never seen one that was done outside of the ones released directly from CAVE.  Even then, you would need to start with a "cheap" game like Mushihimesama or Espgaluda II in order to even make one, and most bootleggers and lowlifes wouldn't go through the trouble with that big of an upfront cost.

Agree with everything Peg said about esprade.

As for CV1000, don't forget you would need to reprogram/desolder the sound chip ;) I think these were done in factory for each game.
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Re: Cave Arcade Sales Tracker Spreadsheet
« Reply #263 on: June 04, 2020, 09:48:25 PM »
I was checking out the Arcade-Projects forum (very cool site) today and noticed an Akai Katana kit sold for $3500 last December. It had the wrong box (CAVE/AMI Ver 2 instead of the correct CAVE/Annex Ver 1), but the original art was all there.

Also, you should add that the 488,000 yen Akai Katana that sold at Suruga-ya was a full kit with poster, whereas the 468,000 yen Akai Katana that sold there was a full kit (no poster).
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