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Offline EOJ

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These are the results of the voting held here. Each game that made it into the top 10 is listed below with its total number of points.

First, the results for each game, with all separate versions (White Label, Black Label, Ver 1.5, Ver 1.1, Arrange, etc) charted separately:

SEPARATE VERSIONS LIST
1.)Ketsui [149]
2.)Dodonpachi [116]
3.)Guwange [105]
3.)Espgaluda [105]
5.)Mushihimesama Futari 1.5 [90]
6.)Ibara [84]
6.)Dodonpachi Daioujou [84]
8.)Muchi Muchi Pork! [83]
9.)Dodonpachi Daioujou Black Label [71]
10.)Mushihimesama Futari Black Label [67]

Next, we have the results for each game, when all of their variant versions (e.g. 1.0, 1.5, Black Label, Arrange, etc) are counted together:

NON-SEPARATE VERSIONS LIST
1.)Mushihimesama Futari (1.0,1.5,BL) [157]
2.)Dodonpachi Daioujou (WL, BL) [155]
3.)Ketsui [149]
4.)Dodonpachi [116]
5.)Espgaluda (Normal, Arrange) [115]
5.)Deathsmiles (WL, MBL, 1.1) [115]
7.)Guwange [105]
8.)Ibara (WL, BL, Arrange) [99]
9.)Muchi Muchi Pork! [83]
10.)Mushihimesama (Normal, Arrange) [76]
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Re: Official CAVE-STG.COM 2009 Top 10 Cave games of All-time RESULTS
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2009, 08:14:11 PM »
Kinda crazy to see Ketsui do so well on the Seperate Versions list.  It's even 33 points over the nearest competitor.  Sheesh, and Guwange too!  Quite high.  Deathsmiles got pretty screwed with all the different versions it looks like.

I do quite like the non-separate versions list, it's a neat summary of the best of the best IMO. 

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Re: Official CAVE-STG.COM 2009 Top 10 Cave games of All-time RESULTS
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2009, 08:22:12 PM »
Yeah, I agree. The Non-Separates List is the best one I've ever seen.
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Re: Official CAVE-STG.COM 2009 Top 10 Cave games of All-time RESULTS
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2009, 07:46:37 PM »

Hmm, don't really agree with much of that ordering, although I do agree with most of the selected titles. It's a matter of taste, but prefer titles like Mushihimesama, Progear and Espgaluda 2 to things like Espgaluda and Ibara - and even Guwange to some degree.

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Re: Official CAVE-STG.COM 2009 Top 10 Cave games of All-time RESULTS
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2009, 09:14:58 PM »
I call the results a fraud, as there was no Dodonpachi Campaign Edition option.  Or the Muchi Muchi Pork from the Fall 2007 matsuri with the Pink Sweets Bosses.  Or the tweaked Ketsui with ura-loop enemies, chips, and Doom right after Evaccaneer on the first loop.  Or...

In all seriousness, I'm glad to see Dodonpachi and Guwange make such a good showing in the separates list, but I'm not sure how I feel about the non-separates.  Ibara seems to be too much of a divided, love-it-or-hate-it title to be only 6 behind Guwange (and as much as I like Espgaluda and Deathsmiles I hardly think they're better than Guwange).  The people have spoken, however, and at least the list looks a bit more random than some of the stuff that turns up every so often on shmups.

Too bad DOJ BL didn't have a better showing, though I suppose its rarity--and the quality of the port--probably have something to do with that.

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Re: Official CAVE-STG.COM 2009 Top 10 Cave games of All-time RESULTS
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2009, 10:39:43 AM »
why Ibara Arrange is not on the separate ver list? (at least Black Label)
and 8th in the non-sep? you are kidding me?

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Re: Official CAVE-STG.COM 2009 Top 10 Cave games of All-time RESULTS
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2009, 10:47:11 AM »
Ibara Arrange is pretty weak compared to the original, yo. I've never played the number 1 of either list. :laugh: And I'm very surprised Guwange did so well on both lists.

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Re: Official CAVE-STG.COM 2009 Top 10 Cave games of All-time RESULTS
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2009, 02:07:09 PM »
why Ibara Arrange is not on the separate ver list?

Because no one voted for it.
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Re: Official CAVE-STG.COM 2009 Top 10 Cave games of All-time RESULTS
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2009, 05:01:56 PM »
Yeah, i wasn't here in the voting.
Ibara kuro has the most beautiful scoring system of all cave games.

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Re: Official CAVE-STG.COM 2009 Top 10 Cave games of All-time RESULTS
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2009, 05:03:23 PM »
I think you mean Ibara Arrange. Ibara Kuro's scoring is quite different from Ibara Arrange.
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Re: Official CAVE-STG.COM 2009 Top 10 Cave games of All-time RESULTS
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2009, 05:07:38 PM »
except for the XTC, its the same.

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Re: Official CAVE-STG.COM 2009 Top 10 Cave games of All-time RESULTS
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2009, 05:10:35 PM »
Well, that's a really big difference, since it's the main scoring system in Kuro and it doesn't exist in Arrange. And no, it's not the only difference. The Baradise system is different, and there are lots of other differences in the gameplay (more bullets, the ability to suck in medals, etc).
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Re: Official CAVE-STG.COM 2009 Top 10 Cave games of All-time RESULTS
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2009, 05:34:07 PM »
I see, sorry, but only read the edited ver. of your IKBL review from Insomnia.
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Re: Official CAVE-STG.COM 2009 Top 10 Cave games of All-time RESULTS
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2009, 06:19:40 AM »
Great to see Guwange charting so high in amongst the Mushi's and the 'Pachi's. For me, it is the ultimate Cave game; great scoring system, gorgeous bullet patterns, amazing art direction/implementation. I think what makes it for me is the variation in bullet style/speed throughout. The Lazy Lobs of bullet spam on level 2 are quite unlike the brutally fast bullet spikes of the stage 5 boss. Every level has a completely different strategy, and controlling the shikigami while making quick bullet dodges makes it feel like you are playing two games at once. And nothing can beat the thrill of being in the centre of the screen, fending off bullets from both above and below at the same time  =D

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Re: Official CAVE-STG.COM 2009 Top 10 Cave games of All-time RESULTS
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2010, 09:44:04 AM »

If there was any justice DDP DOJ BL (PCB) would top the seperates list.  :P

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