According to the latest Cave blog post, once Guwange and DSIIX are released, they plan to port 2 more of their already released arcade games. After this, they plan to shift their development of both XBLA and X360 package titles to include only "completely new games" (this seems to include ports of future Arcade games as well as completely new games made for the X360).
http://cave-game.cocolog-nifty.com/
Surely Daifukkatsu 1.0/1.5/BL is one of the 2 games they plan to port, but what's the other one? Pink Sweets? MMP? Something old and crappy and already in MAME like Esprade (dear God NOOOO!!)?
So is there any indication of who will be in charge of said "completely new" projects? I want to see some Ikeda-directed games. :righton:
Nope, nothing specific.
The only SH3 games left are DFK (+Black Label), MMP, Ibara Kuro, and PS, right? They're the most likely candidates, though I don't think the two Ibaras have much of a chance.
I think reviving an old game is unlikely as it's still an unproven formula for Cave: reviving an old game on XBLA (I assume no pre-SH3 games will get disc treatment) might not be as profitable as they'd like.
In any case, here's hoping that 5pb will want to stay in the game and pick up whatever Cave doesn't want.
I'm guessing Daifukkatsu disc release, and MMP XBLA. Perhaps Asada did tell Kotaku about the XBLA MMP port, but they didn't want them to spill the beans yet, so they removed it from their article?
One problem with this scenario is the fact that in Cave's XBLA survey, Esprade was #2, and Pink Sweets was higher than MMP (I think PS was #5, MMP, was #7 or #8).
Quote from: EOJ on March 11, 2010, 07:28:58 PM
One problem with this scenario is the fact that in Cave's XBLA survey, Esprade was #2, and Pink Sweets was higher than MMP (I think PS was #5, MMP, was #7 or #8).
thats right on, it was in that order.
No offense to Esprade...or any of the other older Cave games...but if the other remaining port is anything other than Pink Sweets or Pork I'll be very disappointed.
Those other games would be great for the DSi :righton:
Just for fun I'm going to take a different angle on this.
They feel that sales on Espgaluda II should have been higher given the popularity of the prequel. Based on the declining sales trend with the disk-based ports, and the work that they've put in coding and going through the Xbox Live process.. There will be no more disk based ports, only 2 more Xbox Live releases of older games beyond Guwange. That way they go out on a high note with DS2 for the "traditional" ports, but they can leverage some of the development time for Guwange and spread it across a couple more online-only games.
We're forgetting about 5pb and M2! If Cave release Daifukkatsu (pretty sure on this) and either MMP or Pink Sweets, that doesn't mean the other titles are completely out of the question.
Please let it be Pork!
Pink sweets would seem logical right? Since Ibara was already ported to PS2 - wouldn't they be more likely to port a sequel? Then again, who knows what they think.
5pb is a possibility, but instead of mentioning any new Cave ports at the recent shooting festa, they said they only have one shooting game planned for 2010, and it's an "original title" (i.e. probably a big pile of crap). Maybe Cave had enough headaches with the DDPDOJBLEX mess and the Ketsui port, and they've washed their hands clean of 5pb?
M2 just ports stuff for Cave (and other companies) if asked. They don't publish games themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if Cave hires them to do one of their remaining 2 ports.
I think there's zero chance one of the two games WON'T be Daifukkatsu. This is because Cave said, long ago when they were planning their first X360 port, their top 3 choices were Deathsmiles, Futari 1.5, and Daifukkatsu (note Galuda 2 wasn't mentioned!). They've ported the first two, all that remains is the last one. They've likely put it off until now due to plans to release the BL version in the arcades. It's also the most recently released of the three, so it's natural that they'd save the port for the end. Finally, every other Cave Donpachi game has gotten a home port.
Quote from: brentsg on March 11, 2010, 08:23:06 PM
There will be no more disk based ports
Asada explicitly mentions both XBLA and disc-based games will continue in their future plans. As they will still be releasing Arcade games, you can bet these will get disc based ports soon after.
*prays and prays and prays for a DFK BL disc release ported by M2*
And as the second one I would like to see MMP: :)
Quote from: cstarflare on March 11, 2010, 07:24:09 PMIn any case, here's hoping that 5pb will want to stay in the game and pick up whatever Cave doesn't want.
+1
Also, are ARIKA totally out to the equation when it comes to porting CAVE games? Any 360 games from ARIKA yet? It would be nice if they did a port of ESP Ra.De. with an arrange mode using ESPGALUDA scoring, as opposed to the ESPGALUDA PS2 arrange mode. :righton:
Arika ported Tetris the Grandmaster to the X360. They also have some puzzle game on XBLA (Jewel Twinkle something or other). Mihara has said he has no interest in porting any shooters to the current consoles, in large part due to the fact they can't display 240p. Since he's the Vice President of the Arika, if he doesn't want to do it, it ain't happening. You'd have more chance of him making another DS shooter.
Best case scenario: DFK w/ Black Label (DLC if they feel they need to make a few more bucks on it, cool with me) ported by M2 out by the Holidays :)
Not too excited about anything beyond that since I'm not so into Yagawa, but MMP does look sort of interesting.
MMP is one of the best looking cave games! I have never played it as I don't think there is one in the UK. Not unless there is one in London I don't know about. I Hope its MMP.
Quote from: cstarflare on March 11, 2010, 07:24:09 PMI think reviving an old game is unlikely as it's still an unproven formula for Cave: reviving an old game on XBLA (I assume no pre-SH3 games will get disc treatment) might not be as profitable as they'd like.
In any case, here's hoping that 5pb will want to stay in the game and pick up whatever Cave doesn't want.
Interestingly, Arika's Jewelry Master Twinkle is an Xbox Live Indie Game, not an XBLA title. IIRC, it's the first time a high-profle developer has released an Xbox Live Indie Game.
Eitherway, I reckon this new direction has happened because of dwindling sales of each retail release. More dedicated titles that really take advantage of the 360 hardware are bound to have more mass-market appeal, plus developers are always looking to work with more advanced tech. If sales of XBLA Guwange go through the roof though, I'd be surprised if they weren't tempted to release some more of the older titles on that service (or preferably M2). You all know what you need to do when it gets released. It's easy to gift XBLA titles too, so make sure you all buy some for friends. I know some people are anti-download but unless you support this upcoming release, there's zero chance we'll ever see the rest of the older titles (and their variants) ported.
Pink and Pork for the win
Quote from: Monouchi on March 12, 2010, 02:18:40 AM
*prays and prays and prays for a DFK BL disc release ported by M2*
*prays and prays and prays for region freeness*
Quote from: Danmaku on March 12, 2010, 10:40:21 AM
Quote from: Monouchi on March 12, 2010, 02:18:40 AM
*prays and prays and prays for a DFK BL disc release ported by M2*
*prays and prays and prays for region freeness*
I think you need to study more of the history at this forum and other shmup forums, that will answer a lot of your questions.
For example this from the CAVE blog:
"Thank you for the warm messages from all over the world.
Espgaluda II Black Label Normal Edition is region free.
But I'm afraid new games after Espgaluda II Black Label won't be region free.
I assure you that Espgaluda II Black Label Normal Edition will be the last region free game for the time being.
Cave
Makoto Asada"
As mentioned before many times, DFK 1.5 is a no brainer, incl. BL as DLC of course.
The only surprise title will be the other one. If it's not MMP nor Pink Sweets I'm going to kill myself.
PLEASE do the Yagawa love!!!
Quote from: Plasmo on March 12, 2010, 11:02:55 AMThe only surprise title will be the other one. If it's not MMP nor Pink Sweets I'm going to kill myself.
PLEASE do the Yagawa love!!!
Daifukkatsu Black Label will be entertaining to see on the 360, given how much it chokes the arcade hardware in the later stages.
I'm hoping for a fully featured MMP port like their previous 360 releases, with hi-res, Arrange and other stuff. Though I'd be doubly happy with a bare-bones Pink and Pork double-pack. One can but dream, however.
im happy no matter what, but i want Pink Pork more thann anything
Quote from: Monouchi on March 12, 2010, 10:49:55 AM
Quote from: Danmaku on March 12, 2010, 10:40:21 AM
Quote from: Monouchi on March 12, 2010, 02:18:40 AM
*prays and prays and prays for a DFK BL disc release ported by M2*
*prays and prays and prays for region freeness*
I think you need to study more of the history at this forum and other shmup forums, that will answer a lot of your questions.
For example this from the CAVE blog:
"Thank you for the warm messages from all over the world.
Espgaluda II Black Label Normal Edition is region free.
But I'm afraid new games after Espgaluda II Black Label won't be region free.
I assure you that Espgaluda II Black Label Normal Edition will be the last region free game for the time being.
Cave
Makoto Asada"
Dude, please stop spoon-feeding! I'm very familiar with Asada's Statements and shmups in common, thats why i'm praying ;-)
Kindly pray on your own then. I'm getting pretty tired of people posting "please be region free!"/ "Why isn't it region free?" / "Will it be region free?" / "I pray it will be region free!" stuff after Cave has said future titles WON'T be region free.
Quote from: EOJ on March 12, 2010, 02:42:25 PM
Kindly pray on your own then. I'm getting pretty tired of people posting "please be region free!"/ "Why isn't it region free?" / "Will it be region free?" / "I pray it will be region free!" stuff after Cave has said future titles WON'T be region free.
Too much sun in Honolulu Mr. Admin?
I am really hoping MMP is the last port announced. DFK is a lock. Cave would be insane to not port the last entry in their flagship franchise.
Quote
Dude, please stop spoon-feeding!
Then stop clogging up threads with irrelevant and futile pleading. It's really annoying when the same post (or variation thereof) comes up repeatedly in various discussions when it has been made clear by Cave themselves that region free is quite simply
not fucking happening from here on out.
Quote from: NR777 on March 12, 2010, 03:09:07 PM
Quote
Dude, please stop spoon-feeding!
Then stop clogging up threads with irrelevant and futile pleading. It's really annoying when the same post (or variation thereof) comes up repeatedly in various discussions when it has been made clear by Cave themselves that region free is quite simply not fucking happening from here on out.
Ever heard of human beings changing their minds?
I have heard of people who can take a hint. You're obviously not one of them. Bye.
Epic ban.
Just re-watched a superplay of DFK. That port can't come soon enough. I'm almost tempted to drop a bunch of cash on the BL PCB and then maybe sell it when(/if) the port arrives, but that's probably a bad idea considering I don't even have a steady job right now :P
A real shame we can't region lock the region free tards to the shmups forum region-moaning thread.
Anyway, I would prefer to see a Pink Sweets port over Muchi Muchi Pork, mostly because I sold my Pink Sweets PCB off already, and I would love to play some different modes of it that don't crush you mercilessly. I also prefer it over MMP aesthetically speaking, and I bet it would look quite nice in high res.
QuoteSomething old and crappy and already in MAME like Esprade (dear God NOOOO!!)?
Blasphemy! But I'll agree to some point. We don't won't this game since there are others.
MMP in highrez would be fine but this is probably the CAVE game I've been playing most so PS would be fantastic.
Stupid question but does anyone have any estimate when this could be announced?
I don't know what to do if they port DFK. Probably scream out loud and not sleep for days... After the announcement about Ketsui, it would be a dream come true.
Quote from: dimmu--borgir on March 12, 2010, 04:56:51 PMI don't know what to do if they port DFK. Probably scream out loud and not sleep for days... After the announcement about Ketsui, it would be a dream come true
As you only work nights, I think you're in for a couple of sleepless days soon. :P I think most CAVE fans would be very surprised not getting a DFK port. December, perhaps?
QuoteAs you only work nights, I think you're in for a couple of sleepless days soon.
Yes, I forgot this. Fantastic job I have (not in the gaming industry), playing games all night and get paid. Haven't brought any arcade joystick yet though. Wonder what my associates would say about that. :-\
DFK now!
Quote from: EOJ on March 12, 2010, 03:31:27 PM
I have heard of people who can take a hint. You're obviously not one of them. Bye.
I love you.
My guess like the rest of the people here is that DFK will be definite, especially since Daioujou has so many releases, so people know what dodonpachi is. MMP has been getting a lot of requests lately - a bunch of people on shmups and elsewhere looking to pick up the board like it's the new Ketsui or something - so I feel like that may be the other choice. If they go with Pink Sweets, they'll make some people extremely happy, and they'll make the other people who play it very frustrated/angry/violent. That's mostly what that game does to me.
I think MMP has greater potential for mainstream appeal, despite the fact that it stars pig girls with big boobs riding on flying motorcycles. Although Pink Sweets placed higher in the poll, I would be really surprised if it saw a console port.
Actually, if it came down to MMP or PS, I would go with the latter because I really like the art direction for that game and the Recca influence looks interesting. I've only played one or two credits of it though and felt just as lost as I ever did with Ibara.
Why does MMP have more potential mainstream appeal?
Quote from: NR777 on March 12, 2010, 06:06:15 PM
I think MMP has greater potential for mainstream appeal, BECAUSE OF the fact that it stars pig girls with big boobs riding on flying motorcycles. Although Pink Sweets placed higher in the poll, I would be really surprised if it saw a console port.
Fixed :)
Pink Sweets with an IKD arrange mode would be killer. PS has the best bullet patterns of any Cave game (by far), also probably the best music. Some of the best stage/enemy pattern design and bosses too. It would be a shame to have it fade into obscurity.
MMP has more appeal because it's way easier (PS is one of the hardest Cave games ever made - people complain about Espgaluda 2's difficulty, but if they played this they would have a heart attack), and the scoring system is simple but brilliant.
Quote from: dmauro on March 12, 2010, 06:08:23 PMWhy does MMP have more potential mainstream appeal?
Hey, I was gonna say Motorcycles! :-X
I think the art direction should be counted higher than the overall popularity of the arcade games. The ports comes with arrange modes and whatnot, so even reading lots about how hard/frustrating PS is, I doubt I won't like a 360 port. Hell, I even enjoy having access to Futari Ultra, even though it's unlikely I'd put time into playing it.
i like the idea of PS arrange.
even a muchimuchi pork arrange.
Also wasn't there a MuchiMuchiPork Dai Cave Special Version?
something about after defeating each boss, you fight a pink sweets boss.
QuotePS is one of the hardest Cave games ever made - people complain about Espgaluda 2's difficulty, but if they played this they would have a heart attack
I really have to second that. Pink Sweets' difficulty is way over anything I've played so far. That damn 5th boss can rot in hell!
Quote from: EOJ on March 12, 2010, 06:13:09 PM
Pink Sweets with an IKD arrange mode would be killer. PS has the best bullet patterns of any Cave game (by far), also probably the best music. Some of the best stage/enemy pattern design and bosses too. It would be a shame to have it fade into obscurity.
If it doesn't get ported, I'll just save up for the PCB. PS PCBs seem to be going for reasonable prices.
MMP is just so much fun to play!
Quote from: EOJ on March 12, 2010, 03:31:27 PM
I have heard of people who can take a hint. You're obviously not one of them. Bye.
Lol, that was cold. :laugh:
What's the release date for MMP? I hope it's region free! :righton: Do you think it will release before Ketsui?
Quote from: Icarus on March 12, 2010, 11:18:47 AM
Quote from: Plasmo on March 12, 2010, 11:02:55 AMThe only surprise title will be the other one. If it's not MMP nor Pink Sweets I'm going to kill myself.
PLEASE do the Yagawa love!!!
Daifukkatsu Black Label will be entertaining to see on the 360, given how much it chokes the arcade hardware in the later stages.
I'm hoping for a fully featured MMP port like their previous 360 releases, with hi-res, Arrange and other stuff. Though I'd be doubly happy with a bare-bones Pink and Pork double-pack. One can but dream, however.
Given how much the 360 can handle with Galuda2's Arrange, I'm sure it can handle DFK.
Quote from: Elixir on March 12, 2010, 07:44:18 PM
Given how much the 360 can handle with Galuda2's Arrange, I'm sure it can handle DFK.
It might be a tricky port, particularly for black label. Regarding the hardware induced slowdown, do they leave it in or avoid it.. thus rendering the port inaccurate?
Based on their DS and Futari black label accuracy so far, I don't hold high hopes for DFK BL.
Futari BL is a pretty solid port. Not arcade perfect, but solid (~ 90%). God & Maniac modes accurately retain the on screen display drop/flicker when you trigger a lot of gems. Thus they'd likely retain the on screen display drop/flicker in DFK BL.
The DSMBL port is mess, but they seem to have learned from that mistake.
Doesn't it seem like Futari BL has too much slowdown, making it a little bit easier?
Original mode does, but it's not more than the extra slowdown found in Futari 1.5's Original/Maniac/Ultra port. Maniac and God don't have any noticeable extra slowdown (other than the slight slowdown as the stage 1 boss is entering in God mode), though they are missing a couple bits of slowdown.
Granted DDP DFK/BL is a given, and most likely their last full disc release, I'm predicting they followup that up with an XBLA download of DoDonPachi and Campaign Version. Seems a natural progression from Guwange and Matsuri version.
Now why do I really hope this happens? Because I'm sure some ingenious individual is going to rip out the Guwange matsuri rom from the XBLA download so we can burn it and play it on our own PCBs or in Mame, and would LOVE to be able to play DDP CV on my PCB as well! >:D
Dream-on. These are ports, not emulations.
Quote from: Dave_K. on March 12, 2010, 08:59:56 PMNow why do I really hope this happens? Because I'm sure some ingenious individual is going to rip out the Guwange matsuri rom from the XBLA download so we can burn it and play it on our own PCBs or in Mame, and would LOVE to be able to play DDP CV on my PCB as well! >:D
No offense but... are you high?
Quote from: Elixir on March 12, 2010, 10:38:47 PM
Quote from: Dave_K. on March 12, 2010, 08:59:56 PMNow why do I really hope this happens? Because I'm sure some ingenious individual is going to rip out the Guwange matsuri rom from the XBLA download so we can burn it and play it on our own PCBs or in Mame, and would LOVE to be able to play DDP CV on my PCB as well! >:D
No offense but... are you high?
Im high :laugh:
I'd give my left nut to have DDP Campaign version.
Seriously.
Quote from: Elixir on March 12, 2010, 10:38:47 PMNo offense but... are you high?
No offense taken, I know its a far fetched idea, but given this is exactly what happen with IronClad for Wii VC, its within the range of possibility, if Cave decides to do quick XBLA ports through emulation.
Fuck, I changed my mind. It's gonna be Bee Storm and we all know it.
Quote from: Dave_K. on March 12, 2010, 11:37:33 PM
Quote from: Elixir on March 12, 2010, 10:38:47 PMNo offense but... are you high?
No offense taken, I know its a far fetched idea, but given this is exactly what happen with IronClad for Wii VC, its within the range of possibility, if Cave decides to do quick XBLA ports through emulation.
All I know is, people don't dump XBLA games because there's nothing to run them on. Pretty much everything for the Wii can be though, from VC to WiiWare, and the Wii emulator is so well done it exceeds PS2 emulation.
Or you could just get a 360, hook it up to your cab and play it like that like a bunch of goons here did.
I can see why people would feel let down of ESPRaDe became the last port, but still makes me sad to see so much hate for it :( Aside from the obligatory DFK disc, I'd love to see MMP on XBLA. I only got to play it briefly when Casino had it in, but even still it got me far more interested in it than Pink Sweets. As stated, Pink Sweets is crazy hard, and requires a lot of rank manipulation which is really not how I like to play things. I'd still buy it though, natch ;)
Quote from: Elixir on March 13, 2010, 12:50:17 AMAll I know is, people don't dump XBLA games because there's nothing to run them on.
This actually isn't true. Pretty much all XBLA games have been dumped. You can run them on a JTAGed 360 (basically a 360 moded to remove all the security). There are even PC apps that can decrypt the packages so you can inspect/rip the files contained in the packages. The most obvious use for this is to rip the music from games.
Quote from: EOJ on March 12, 2010, 06:13:09 PM
Pink Sweets with an IKD arrange mode would be killer. PS has the best bullet patterns of any Cave game (by far), Some of the best
I'm not a huge fan of PS but i second that and DFK have great waves of bullets too!
I think there is a strategy to how Cave is releasing games.
Release a popular game:Futari
Then release a less popular game: Espgaluda 2
Release a popular game: Deathsmiles 2
Release a less popular game: Pork/Pink
now, if Cave are smart, they should release their next port very soon after Deathsmiles 2. We all know Deathsmiles 2 is going to be a big seller for Cave...maybe even bigger than the first one. They should take advantage of that and release their next port quickly to ride on the success of Deathsmiles 2.
Whether the next port is Pork or Pink, they should do some significant marketing and try target the same folks who are buying Deathsmiles. Knowing the cast of characters in both Muchi Muchi Pork and Pink Sweets, that shouldn't be too hard to do. If they can manage to do that successfully, I think they can make either game sell reasonably well...even if they didn't have that much success in the arcades...
Well Pink would benefit most from some arrange modes but MMP is one of Cave's most fun titles imo. Either would be great for fans, and both will probably be sales disappointments.
I will be interested to see how DFK sells.
Anything after DFK is a bonus.
I have a feeling we'll eventually get both Pork & Pink. (I'd prefer Muchi Muchi first! ...but)
Maybe down the line, after all the older titles are released on XBLA we'll get a disc compilation of them all.
Loving the CAVEbox 360
Quote from: bucklemyshoe on March 13, 2010, 12:11:04 PM
Loving the CAVEbox 360
yeah! :righton:
Actually, Im getting really curious now to see the new cat-girl game.
I love cats and girls, this cannot go wrong. =D
Dont remember if they have announced if it is a shooter or hori/vert...prolly is in 3D like DS2?
QuoteDoDonPachi and Campaign Version.
Then that 10,000 investment I made in the Campaign Version board would go to waste.
QuoteAll I know is, people don't dump XBLA games because there's nothing to run them on
If it is a 100% emulation solution, there is MAME, etc. A rom is a rom is a rom, regardless of how they store/distribute it. It is not out of the realm of possilibility.
QuoteI have a feeling we'll eventually get both Pork & Pink. (I'd prefer Muchi Muchi first! ...but)
Now you're the high one.
Quote from: bcass on March 12, 2010, 06:19:29 AMEitherway, I reckon this new direction has happened because of dwindling sales of each retail release.
note that the original Jewelry Master was a freeware game in the first place, and that it supposedly didn't do well enough to become commercial
What has that got to do with what you quoted? What you quoted was in relation to Caves retail releases, not Arika's Jewelry Master.
I'm still waiting for news on the 'Steem' ports...
Quote from: GaijinPunch on March 17, 2010, 02:55:35 AM
QuoteDoDonPachi and Campaign Version.
Then that 10,000 investment I made in the Campaign Version board would go to waste.
you have a Campaign board?
how did you manage that?
Quote from: purpbullets on March 21, 2010, 04:29:39 PM
Quote from: GaijinPunch on March 17, 2010, 02:55:35 AM
QuoteDoDonPachi and Campaign Version.
Then that 10,000 investment I made in the Campaign Version board would go to waste.
you have a Campaign board?
how did you manage that?
Protip: don't believe everything you read on the net.
Quote from: Jockel on March 21, 2010, 04:32:04 PM
Quote from: purpbullets on March 21, 2010, 04:29:39 PM
Quote from: GaijinPunch on March 17, 2010, 02:55:35 AM
QuoteDoDonPachi and Campaign Version.
Then that 10,000 investment I made in the Campaign Version board would go to waste.
you have a Campaign board?
how did you manage that?
Protip: don't believe everything you read on the net.
Protip: (hahaha) dont believe you are pro.
Quote from: purpbullets on March 21, 2010, 07:08:18 PMProtip: (hahaha) dont believe you are pro.
^^
This you have a hard time believing, but someone in the west owning a DDP Campaign board is feasible to you? You must be a pro. A pro nutter.
i dont know where gaijin is at...i am a pro nutter, ask ya mother.
At least the price of supposedly 10.000 yen should have raised an eyebrow.
Purpbullets decided to delete his account after this exchange. Oh well.
He was too much of a pro for us. :whyioughtta:
Following this forum over a longer time is funny :laugh:
True, I love your avatar Antares. :laugh:
About the topic, there has been no mention of Guwange release date, right? ...so when should we expect to see it, summer?
What I wanna know is when was Japan considered "the west"? (he lives in Japan, doesn't he?)
Quote from: emphaticbut someone in the west owning a DDP Campaign board is feasible to you?
Quote from: Monouchi on March 22, 2010, 06:06:40 AM
True, I love your avatar Antares. :laugh:
Don't laugh, the hamster is a pro ;)
I remember seeing those mini cabs. Thats a Megalow isn't it? Are they still avaliable anywhere?
Quote from: necpmf on March 22, 2010, 06:29:18 AM
What I wanna know is when was Japan considered "the west"? (he lives in Japan, doesn't he?)
Quote from: emphaticbut someone in the west owning a DDP Campaign board is feasible to you?
the other west
It's west of most of Russia.
Quote from: EOJ on March 22, 2010, 02:09:33 AM
Purpbullets decided to delete his account after this exchange. Oh well.
The ban hammer is strong with you recently EOJ.
I didn't ban him. Anyone can manually delete their own account here via the user cp. That's what purpbullets chose to do.
GP can I borrow your Champagne board?
Quote from: brentsg on March 25, 2010, 06:06:49 PM
GP can I borrow your Champagne board?
Or take a whiff off the cork? :lol:
Quote from: emphatic on March 25, 2010, 06:13:23 PM
Quote from: brentsg on March 25, 2010, 06:06:49 PM
GP can I borrow your Champagne board?
Or take a whiff off the cork? :lol:
I wish I could find the review, but I hear the main difference is that the Champagne version has a good nose and nicer legs.
Edit: Just talking about it makes me want to get out my top hat and monocle.
I actually meant to write $10,000. Oh, well.
I knew it was never, ever going to happen, but the guy that scored me the Loke test pops knew someone with a blue board... (I assume "the one") and was going to take a stab at it.
Quote from: Plasmo on March 12, 2010, 11:02:55 AM
As mentioned before many times, DFK 1.5 is a no brainer, incl. BL as DLC of course.
The only surprise title will be the other one. If it's not MMP nor Pink Sweets I'm going to kill myself.
PLEASE do the Yagawa love!!!
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Quote from: Dave_K. on March 12, 2010, 08:59:56 PM
Now why do I really hope this happens? Because I'm sure some ingenious individual is going to rip out the Guwange matsuri rom from the XBLA download so we can burn it and play it on our own PCBs or in Mame, and would LOVE to be able to play DDP CV on my PCB as well! >:D
Quote from: bcass on March 12, 2010, 09:25:22 PM
Dream-on. These are ports, not emulations.
Quote from: Elixir on March 12, 2010, 10:38:47 PM
No offense but... are you high?
As I now sit down to play Guwange Matsuri Ver on my PCB, I think back to the two of you and your ever so clever comments. :laugh:
Given that you lose all the additional functionality offered by playing the game on a 360, I don't really see the point in playing on a PCB.
Also, just because the ROMs are on the 360 disc doesn't necessarily mean that the game is being emulated (just in case that's what you were calling into question by quoting my post). IIRC, most of the Cave ports have the ROMs on the discs. I think they just put the files there to directly reference the original assets. I actually saw the Guwange ROM in the XBLA dump when I ripped the music when it was first released, but assumed it was incomplete (ie - just the graphics ROM).
Playing the game on original hardware at 15khz in an Astro City is good enough reason for me. I still bought the XBLA download for the leaderboard replays, not sure what other "extra's" you were talking about.
As for emulation, it would certainly make more sense than "porting" the code, from a time/cost standpoint. I don't think any of the SH3 ports have rom images on them, as Cave stated they were able to cross compile these via a toolchain developed with Microsoft's help (I believe they mentioned this in an interview).
Still if Cave were to someday release DoDonPachi Campaign version as a bonus or XBLA download, chances are it will be emulation. (fingers crossed!)
I thought the cross compiler tools came from M2? I remember it being mentioned when they first revealed it only took them a couple of days to perform the basic port process.
Also, when I mentioned "additional features offered by playing the game on a 360" I meant the additional features of the 360, not specifically the game itself. Local friends scoreboard (the one in the dash), achievements, local high score saving, leaderboards, downloadable replays, etc. Being able to play at 15Khz is the only bonus of playing on a PCB as far as I'm concerned, but I'd still rather have all the extra 360 functonality than that.