This strategy guide is a translation of most of the info in the official Deathsmiles guide included in the limited Deathsmiles DVD release. Other info has been supplemented by the author (me). GaijinPunch is another contributor to this guide.
1.0 Basics1.1 Codes to unlock hidden characters + the Canyon stageInsert a coin, then at the title screen enter:
UNLOCK FOLLETT:
2P: Hold A, B +C
1P: ↑, ↑, ↑, ↑, B,B,A,A, ←, ←, →, →, C, C, C, ↓, C
UNLOCK ROSA:
2P: Hold A, B, +C
1P: C,B,A,C,B,↑,A,→,C,←,B,↓,C,B,A,A,A
UNLOCK CANYON STAGE:
2P: Hold A, B, +C
1P: C,C,C,A,↑,←,→,↓,B,C,C,C,↓,↓,A,B,C,B,A
Once you enter the codes, each feature is permanently (and irreversibly) saved to the PCB.
1.2 On Screen Display:For 1P:
Upper left: Score on top, Life gauge directly underneath. To the right of this is the bomb stock.
Bottom left: item counter
Mirror all positions for 2P.
1.2.1 Life GaugeYour life gauge decreases by .5 when you touch an enemy in Normal mode. It decreases by 1 if you hit a bullet in any mode. Every time it decreases by 1, you lose 30% of your item counter.
1.3 ControlsTap A: Shot (left)
Hold A: Laser (left)
Tap B: Shot (right)
Hold B: Laser (right)
Hold A+B: Lock-shot
C: Bomb
1.4 Enemy typeOne of Deathsmiles' most important features to understand is that killing different enemies with the shot, laser, or lock-shot will result in a different amount of items produced in their wake. Whether you are in normal, power-up, or fever mode can also make a difference.
This full chart, adopted and translated from this Japanese page (http://www48.tok2.com/home/stgup2/stgup2/src/stgup20039.gif), shows the best shot type to use on each enemy:
(http://www.cave-stg.com/ds_enemychart.jpg)
1.5 CharactersWindia: Her lock-shot develops in a large ring around her. Her option shoots a crescent projectile when in Laser mode. Her option moves when tapping Shot, but is fixed when holding Laser. A balanced character overall.
Casper: Her lock-shot develops in a large ring around her. Her option shoots a cutter in a boomerang-esque pattern when tapping shot. Her option moves when holding Laser, but is fixed when tapping Shot. Stronger than Windia, but also slower in her Laser mode.
Follett: Her lock-shot develops around her option, locking onto enemies in front of Follett. Her option shoots a wide shot when tapping shot. Her option moves when tapping Shot, but is fixed when holding Laser. Her main strength is her very strong lock-shot that is the easiest to lock-on among all the characters, with a wide firing range.
Rosa: The lock-shot develops around her option, locking onto enemies behind Rosa. Her option shoots a homing rose cluster when holding Laser. Her option moves when holding Laser, but is fixed when tapping Shot. The strongest character, her weakness is her slower speed and the inability to lock-on to enemies in front of her.
1.5.1 Character speedThe speed in ( ) is when in power-up mode.
WINDIA CASPER FOLLETT ROSA
Shot mode 46(62) 52(68) 46(62) 36(52)
Laser mode 28(25) 18(15) 24(21) 32(29)
Auto-lock mode 32(27) 42(37) 26(21) 18(13)
2.0 Stages
MAP TOP : EX (Canyon ) Castle
MAP MIDDLE: A-2 (Graveyard) B-2 (Swamp) C-2 (Volcano)
MAP BOTTOM: A-1 (Harbor Town) B-1 (Forest) C-1 (Lakeside)
The letters (A, B, C) each stand for Chapters. The chapters are split in two: one half is in the Map bottom, the other half is in the Map middle. The EX (canyon) stage is not part of any chapter, while the Castle stage has two parts and is Chapter 4.
2.1 Stage selectYou can choose any of the bottom 3 stages to start, then you choose any of the middle 3 stages. After this you keep alternating back and forth between bottom and middle stages until you have completed them all (you can never choose 2 middle or 2 bottom stages in a row). When all 6 are completed, you then have the option to go to the EX stage, or go directly to the Castle stage.
There are numerous possible routes, all with similar scoring potentials. This is one of the game's most admirable traits -- a great variety in stage paths without sacrificing game balance.
2.2 Stage Rank SelectYou can choose Rank 1, 2 or 3 at the start of each Middle and Bottom stages. Obviously Rank 1 is the easiest and Rank 3 is the hardest. Ranks 2 and 3 increase the number of enemies, the number of bullets, the overall difficulty, and the number of boss phases. In addition, depending on the rank and stage path, different items (bomb and life replenishments) will appear within different stages [See section 4.3 for detailed info].
Ranks 1 and 2 are limited -- you can choose each only once on each level (middle or bottom) of the map. In other words it's impossible to play all 6 stages all in Rank 1 or all in Rank 2. You can do a max of 2 stages in rank 1 and 2 in rank 2, the other two must be in rank 3. There is no limit to the amount of times you can choose Rank 3.
2.3 Death modeWhen you choose rank 3 five times, you enter Death Mode. In Death Mode suicide bullets are fired back at you from each enemy you destroy. These bullets are small, star-shaped, and are absorbable by your option. Once you enter Death Mode, you cannot go back, even if you select Rank 1 or Rank 2 for the sixth stage.
Every bullet absorbed in Death mode is worth 100 points. The +Value (see Section 4.6) is also added to each bullet.
If you choose every stage in rank 3 and go to the EX stage before the Castle stage, then the Castle stage will be at the highest possible rank in the game, called Death Mode Level 2.
2.4 ALL-clear bonusYour end bonus is calculated by the following equations:
Life bonus: (130 x Remaining lives) x 50,000pts
Bomb Bonus: Remaining bombs x 1,000,000 pts.
Item Bonus: Item counter total x 10,000 points
The totals of each are added together for your total end bonus.
3.0 Power-Up modeTo enter Power-up mode, you have to press A+B when your item counter maxes out at 1000. When in this mode, your attack and option strength are increased, and you are only damaged by bullets, so you are free to move through any enemies on screen. Your item counter counts down from 1000 to zero when in this mode. When it hits zero, you revert back to the normal playing mode.
The rate of the item counter's decline depends on whether you are in the stage or in a boss fight, and whether or not you press any attack button. Here are full the details:
(http://www.cave-stg.com/ds_itemcounter.jpg)
The conditions can overlap. In the case of the Lock-shot, they always overlap. The lock-shot by itself is -1 for every 2 frames, but since
you have to be pressing A and B to be in lock-shot mode, and each of these also reduces the counter by -1 every 2 frames, lock-shot mode
effectively has a decrease rate of -3 every 2 frames.
Additionally, if you bomb during a boss fight, the two values are added together ([-1 for every 2 frames] + [-4 for every 1 frame]).
3.1 Fever modeOnce you max your +Value (see Section 4.5) at +10,000, you enter what is called "Fever mode". All enemies produce High Crowns when destroyed in this mode, though you still need to use the right attack type on certain enemies to maximize the amount of High Crowns produced.
4.0 Items
4.1 Life replenishment items(http://www.cave-stg.com/smalllife.jpg)
Small (Prine a la mode) : fills up .5 of one life block. Gives a bonus of 100,000 pts.
(http://www.cave-stg.com/mediumlife.jpg)
Medium (Strawberry Parfeit): fills up 1 full life block. Gives a bonus of 200,000pts.
(http://www.cave-stg.com/largelife.jpg)
Large (Decoration Cake): Fills up 2 full life blocks. Gives a bonus of 500,000pts.
The Decoration Cake is only available during the Chapter 4 final boss fight.
4.2 Bomb (Magic) item(http://www.cave-stg.com/magic.jpg) The Magic item adds one bomb to your stock. You can hold a maximum of 6 bombs. The bombs give no point bonus unless your bomb stock is maxed out at 6, whereupon each successive bomb is worth 300,000 pts.
4.3 Item appearance chart(http://www.cave-stg.com/ds_itemchart.jpg)
*=only during Death Mode
4.4 Point itemsSmall (Skeleton Ring) : 100pts
Medium (Crown Tiara): 800pts, breaks into 2 Skeleton Rings when it hits the ground
Large (High Crown): 2,000pts, breaks into 2 Crown Tiaras on the first bounce on the ground, then on the second bounce these 2 Crown Tiaras will break into 4 Skeleton Rings.
The Skeleton Rings disappear in 64 frames after being stationary on the ground.
4.5 Item CounterWhen you absorb any of the point items during the normal mode, they add to your item counter in the following way:
(http://www.cave-stg.com/highcrown.jpg)
Large (High Crown): +10
(http://www.cave-stg.com/crowntiara.jpg)
Medium (Crown Tiara): +5
(http://www.cave-stg.com/skeletonring.jpg)
Small (Skeleton Ring) : +1
Additionally, every suicide bullet absorbed during Death Mode adds +1 to your item counter.
4.6 Item acquisition total (+Value)The item acquisition total, or "+Value", is the core scoring system in the game. When you reach 1000 on the item counter in normal mode, or when you enter Power-up mode, every item absorbed adds to your +Value, which acts as a point bonus added to every item you absorb. It is displayed next to your character as it increases. The maximum +Value is +10,000, which is colored a bright orange. When you reach this, you enter "Fever mode".
4.6.1 Normal modeHigh Crown +10
Crown Tiara +5
Skeleton Ring +1
As the values clearly show, it is more beneficial to keep absorbing High Crowns here, rather than have them break.
Each suicide bullet absorbed in Death Mode also adds +1 to your +Value. It is possible to max out the +Value without ever entering Power-up mode, simply by playing through the EX and Castle stages in full max 1000 Normal mode. You are then able to ride this +10,000 bonus through to the end (as long as you don't die, as the +Value is reset when you die) for larger gains than can be had from entering Power-up mode. This is the strategy the pros use for their 500-600mil top scores.
4.6.2 Power-Up modeIn power-up mode all the items are equal, so a High crown will add the same to your counter as a Skeleton Ring. What matters is the +Value. The higher it is, the higher the value each item will add to your +Value. Here are the details:
When +Value is 0~ +1
+100~ +2
+200~ +4
+500~ +8
+1000~ +12
+2000~ +16
+5000~ +20
Thus, unlike in the normal mode, in Power-up mode it is more beneficial to let the High crowns break into 2, and again into 4, as even at the lowest +Value the High Crown will add +1 but four Skeleton Rings will add +4. At +5000 and beyond the difference is even more pronounced: only +20 for a high crown, but +80 for four Skeleton Rings.
5.0 ExtendsPoint-based extends are given at 20mil and 45mil points. Each one adds an extra life block. There are no other extends in the game, only the life replenishment items that can fill up your life blocks.
Very nice ST, thanks for translating. Eventhough I'm probably never going to play this, I now understand the scoring system. Interesting read!
One thing that's a bit confusing in the book and the wiki is the part about the counter drop in Power Up mode. The part about the bomb is an example that any of the conditions which cause the counter to deplete faster are stackable. Hence, the bomb thing. Holding down A = -1 for every 2 frames. Holding B = -1 for every 2 frames. Holding A+B = -2 for every 2 frames. I tested this yesterday.
One other thing the chart doesn't mention. Some enemies (the flying eyeballs for example) give way more crowns w/ the lock-on shot once your counter hits 10,000 in Power Up mode. Watch the Follett replay. He recharges a few times on the eyeballs (and no bombs) where none of the other characters do. Follett's lock on can kill a lot of enemies, where as the other characters' kind of suck.
Yeah, Follett can use the lock-shot to get more high crowns from the eyeballs when in Fever mode. Casper, on the other hand, benefits from using laser here. So there are some minor character differences with a few enemies.
Are you sure the lock-shot reduces the counter -2 every 2 frames? The official book says -1 every 2 frames.
One thing I need to add to the guide is the "recharge" technique.
i'm just begining with DS, so thanks a lot for great strategy guide EOJ, it will be helpful =D
I'm quoting the book. It says nothing specific about A+B, but it does say that pressing A,B, or C results in the -1 per 2 frames drop. The caption at the side says that any of the conditions will overlap, meaning if you hold two buttons, you lose twice the frames. Hell, bombing and holding A,B, + C might take off more.
Try it out. I did the train stage. Once I hit 1000 I went straight to power up and held down A+B. Holding down only B doing the same thing resulted in a much longer power up mode.
The book says the lock-shot (or "auto-lock", as they call it) reduces the counter -1 every 2 frames. Page 12, on the chart at the bottom, right under the "pressing A, B or C" one. To enter lock-shot you have to be pressing A+B, so that's what I meant.
But since the conditions overlap, pressing A and B each probably also add -1 to the total, so it would be a total of -3 for every 2 frames in lock-shot mode. I'll updated the guide with this info. Thanks!
That could be true to. It definitely goes down faster. I triggered it right when I got 1000 on the train stage. When I held A+B the whole time, I rain out where the super play refills. When holding down just B, I still had over 400 left at the same spot.
I cannot find a way of doing 3 x stages on rank 1 as quoted I think you can do a max of 2 at rank 1 and then a max at rank 2
Ranks 1 and 2 are limited ? you can choose each only once for each Chapter (in other words it?s impossible to play all 6 stages all in Rank 1 or all in Rank 2 ? however, it is possible to play them all in a mix of Ranks 1 and 2). There is no limit to the amount of times you can choose Rank 3.
can someone please explain,on the character selection screen when you select a character there is a option underneath what is this :)
It just lets you choose whether you want to see the demonstration or not before you start playing. Top option is "see the demonstration", bottom option is "skip it".
thanks mate :)
Awsome guide as always EOJ & thanks also for your input GP :)
I'm looking forwarded to playing this again tonight, but for how long remains a mystery :) It's cleared a lot of things up that I was wondering about. Let's see if I can beat the 25m
Been playing with Windia recently for this month's competition, and I have to say the Volcano recharge is really easy with her. Just stay on the far left after you kill the blue ogre, wait for your counter to drop below 400, then just as you start moving to the right hit the bomb button, center yourself in the top middle of that big round volcano thing and hold A+B until the bomb finishes. Instant recharge. The trick is to not use the shot or laser at all during any of this (if you do it won't work).
QuoteThe trick is to not use the shot or laser at all during any of this (if you do it won't work).
Presumably b/c you kill the green eyes, which are triggering the flood of crowns?
Yes, exactly.
what is the recharge technique? :)
Quote from: jpj on March 10, 2009, 03:46:46 PM
what is the recharge technique? :)
That is when you goes out of Power-Up mode by bombing and at the same time recharge the skull counter to 1000. I have fond that the easies place to do that is on the forest stage... just work up the counter to 1000, enter Power-Up mode and use lock-shot on the last large Ivy's at the end of the stage (just before the boss). Bomb just before you kill the second last Ivy, and hold down A+B (lock-shot) until the bomb fades out .... you probably have to milk Crown's from the enemies in order to recharge the counter to 1000.
... it is also quite easy to refill the skull counter on the house in the graveyard stage.
cheers =D
The bomb-recharge is a pain in the ass. It's easy at the end of the forest stage, but also not so important for your score there. The main place you need to master it is in the middle of the volcano stage, and it's really frustrating to get the timing perfect (see my post a few posts up for a somewhat reliable way to do it with one character). I'm so glad they got rid of this in DSMBL. It makes the game much more enjoyable.
Quote from: EOJ on March 10, 2009, 08:08:41 PM
The bomb-recharge is a pain in the ass. It's easy at the end of the forest stage, but also not so important for your score there. The main place you need to master it is in the middle of the volcano stage, and it's really frustrating to get the timing perfect (see my post a few posts up for a somewhat reliable way to do it with one character). I'm so glad they got rid of this in DSMBL. It makes the game much more enjoyable.
I agree?. My score actually decrease if I use the recharge trick at the end of the forest stage (I can get about 10 million), but if I can end the stage with a full skull counter it opens up the possibility to score on the following stage.
? and yes, DSMBL is in my opinion a (much) better game.
I don't care too much for this game, but since I got the DVD for a very good price I might aswell ask about the bits I didn't understand.
1.Why do ALL players bomb on the Canyon midboss (Beast Dog)? Does it generate more enemies if you kill it quicker or do the players simply want to milk the mass of suicide bullets properly?
2.Isn't there a penality for bombing in Death mode 2? On the DVD the players bomb quite often in the castle stage for survival. Does dying resetts your +Value to ZERO? That would be quite harsh... (as stated in 4.6.1.)
Thanks!
Quote from: Plasmo on March 11, 2009, 07:29:19 AM
I don't care too much for this game, but since I got the DVD for a very good price I might aswell ask about the bits I didn't understand.
1.Why do ALL players bomb on the Canyon midboss (Beast Dog)? Does it generate more enemies if you kill it quicker or do the players simply want to milk the mass of suicide bullets properly?
2.Isn't there a penality for bombing in Death mode 2? On the DVD the players bomb quite often in the castle stage for survival. Does dying resetts your +Value to ZERO? That would be quite harsh... (as stated in 4.6.1.)
Thanks!
1. that is probably to refill the skull counter
2. I leave the open from someone else to answer
The only penalty for bombing is that it kills your current counter back to 0, so you lose your Powerup mode. Of course it also can kill enemies on the screen which could hurt score a little, but it's mostly used for the bomb-refill as mentioned above. You lose your +counter every time you leave Powerup mode anyway so it's a pretty light penalty for dieing or bombing.
Quote1. that is probably to refill the skull counter
Their counter is at 1000 already, but since it's the Castle stage, the skull counter isn't important anyway.
QuoteYou lose your +counter every time you leave Powerup mode anyway so it's a pretty light penalty for dieing or bombing.
I was talking about Death mode 2, where dying costs you 50mill+, but bombing on the other hand none (?) which is surprising.
The only reason dieing in Deathmode 2 hurts your score a lot is because in the Castle stage (and some others?), it's better to sit on your 1000 counter and rack up the +counter without entering powerup mode. As I recall, blocking bullets in this version racks up your +counter and gives you full points so it's more important to milk the bullets all level than it is to get the mass of items that powerup mode would give you and have to build the +counter back up.
So yeah, dieing drops your 1000 counter down so you'd have to build your +counter back up too, and bombing doesn't do anything since you aren't in power-up mode.
okay, so i'll be playing this soon. and i've read the strat guide and watched a couple of videos, but it still seems a bit confusing with the different modes, and different counters, and weird techniques, and which button reduces which counter every X frames, etc etc. hopefully it will make a lot more sense after i've played a couple of credits. but for someone who is a total beginner to deathsmiles, what should i be concentrating on doing? :)
i've read what is said about the recharge technique, but how does it work in principle? i just had a run where i was in power mode for C-1, and without bombing, after i came out of it, i had a skull counter of 800 ???
and how are you guys generating such high scores? i must be not doing stuff right as i did most rank 3, and went to (and died) during canyon stage, but only 30 something mill :(
i tend to start at forest rank 2, then do volcano rank 3, where i get a lot of points in the power mode. but should i then just try and raise my skull counter to 1000 and try and get the +value as high as possible without dying? sadly i never took much interest with this game initially, and the only video i downloaded is a pretty low clear of about 80 mill, no canyon. or should i try to learn how and where to do the recharge technique and go into power mode on each level? i understand that going all rank 3 will help. and i haven't memorised which shot is best on which enemy, or always letting the crowns break in power mode. but does that and suicide bullets, and canyon, really make that huge a difference? for you guys that can do over 150 mill, what sort of score would you typically get after the first six chapters? and lastly, are there any decent scoring replays on nico worth checking out?
:)
i gather you always have suicide bullets on canyon? does that mean the properties of death mode apply here, even if you haven't done 5+ stages of rank3..?
yes, you always have suicide bullets in the canyon. If you do low ranks before the canyon, then you will have less suicide bullets there, however.
As for scoring, you should trigger the 'power up' scoring mode at least once in every stage (except stage 1, if you start at Halloween town). I usually ended the last of the first six stages with 125mil or so, my best was 148mil iirc. Read my guide for info on the scoring. A lot of it depends on your ability to get the multiplier to 10,000 quickly, then ride it out for as long as possible.
You don't need to bomb to recharge, it just makes it easier. If you end powerup mode just as you trigger a lot of large gold crowns, these will boost your item counter near 1000 (or completely 1000). It's just hard to get the timing right, and if you screw it up then the rest of the stage is pretty much screwed score-wise (similar to breaking a chain in DDP games).
cheers thanks for the answer. i watched a 212 mill that's probably ancient now on youtube courtesy of ex-goku, and i'm obviously not getting my 1000 skull counter as quickly as i could. canyon seems really tough :-X
for the recharge then, when you say bomb and go into autolock, do you hold down A+B+C i take it? to exit power mode as quickly as possible whilst still generating gold crowns?
nice guide by the way ;)
Quote from: jpj on March 13, 2009, 07:15:13 PM
for the recharge then, when you say bomb and go into autolock, do you hold down A+B+C i take it? to exit power mode as quickly as possible whilst still generating gold crowns?
Yeah, just hold down A+B though. The tricky part is you have to place the bomb so that the pentagram in the circle is covering an enemy. If it doesn't, the recharge won't work.
great, thanks :) would it not be easier with A+B+C though..? or does that just not work?
I guess you could hold down ABC. I never tried it, but it's easier to just hold down AB anyway. You should hold AB just as your 'power up mode' counter is decreasing from 100>0. So I often bomb at around 400, then wait a second or two and hold AB.
still haven't got that down yet :-\
so anyways, i beat the game, low rank, with follett, and during the ending, you could choose one of two options. i chose the bottom one, and then she was in the bathtub. WTF?
and how the feck do you skip all the text in this game? ???
do you guys all just go in and out of power-up mode as much as possible? anyone try the whole sitting in fever mode thing? i only had one go, but got hit by a bullet on the last stage before choosing canyon or castle. that's tough man. firstly, it's nowhere near as exciting as playing the game normally. and then you could spend 15 minutes building up your +value, only to piss it all away. tense!
No way to turn off those damn in-game cinemas (in DS or DSMBL).
The choices are two endings - one where you stay in the fantasy land and the other where you go back to reality.
i'm really gonna have to practice that recharge thing, but it would help a lot if i could actually see what it's supposed to be like. obviously the volcano stage you mentioned, but also A2 has a nice spot with the large house at the end. i didn't use a bomb, but managed to get my skull counter up to 800 straight after coming out of power-up mode, but i think it was a fluke. really amazed by blu's 300 mill with follett without canyon or suicide bullets though :o i'm starting to dislike this game from a scoring perspective though, and miss my MMP :-\
Yeah, BLU's 300mil score is great, but there's a guy on nico who gets like 440mil w/ Follett skipping the canyon and without going into "death mode" (suicide bullets).
I gave up on this game (and to a lesser extent DSMBL) because the scoring system is pretty unforgiving. One split second mistiming and your whole score is fucked for the run. Not incredibly fun after awhile.
MMP for the win! :cool:
you couldn't point me in the right direction could you? ;) i don't know the katakana for deathsmiles :-X
You're talking about the nico vids? The katakana is:
デススマイルズ
cheers. ico is a bit easier to navigate than i thought, but i still wish it was a bit more organised, for want of a better word. seen the follett 332 mill replay, with suicide bullets. i am totally playing the stages in the wrong order.. :-[
well, i better play this some more before i have to give it back. i'm now doing canyon as well, and provided you don't go all rank 3, it's not so bad. only played it a handful of times, but i'm gradually gettin' used to this suicide bullets and option pod business. but is it possible to no-miss no-bomb the canyon level (and boss)?? :oogle:
Thanks EOJ for the guide.
I will soon also be a beginner in DS and this guide told me alot of things that I didnt know of but now will enhance my gaming experience.
Quote from: EOJ on October 20, 2008, 06:14:26 PM
Been playing with Windia recently for this month's competition, and I have to say the Volcano recharge is really easy with her. Just stay on the far left after you kill the blue ogre, wait for your counter to drop below 400, then just as you start moving to the right hit the bomb button, center yourself in the top middle of that big round volcano thing and hold A+B until the bomb finishes. Instant recharge. The trick is to not use the shot or laser at all during any of this (if you do it won't work).
Don't you mean red orge? The blue one is top right by the time you have to bomb.
If you moved forwards and bomb, Hou should be at the 5 o'clock position, and the pentagram should touch the green eyeballs. I've seen people use the left green eyeballs near the rock to trigger this as well. I still haven't mastered the refill just yet, but eh, one stage at a time.
I read the topic and I've a question about the life refil big item that you said that appears during the 4th stage boss's fight? there is something special things to do in order to obtain it?
Do you mean the big cake from Jitterbug, the stage 4-2 Boss? To get it you can't bomb during the Jitterbug fight. It fills up 2 life blocks.
Does that cake time out? One time I didn't need it right away so I left it floating around, but then later during the Tyrannosatan fight it had apparently disappeared (and my health had not been restored, so I am sure I did not pick it up accidentally).
It times out. It times out around his huge cube attack/when Jitterbug is spat out.
You can get three quick bombs off then suicide and still pick up the cake. If you wait much longer it will disappear.
I've seen the follet 400+ posted on Niko Niko....Someone know why the guy start the first stage with 120+ of counter? ;)
Could someone explain the right use of the bomb used in fever mode to improve the counter?
Picked this up yesterday,thanks for the Guide EOJ.....very useful,just one thing...how the hell do you guys get such high scores. :-[
Quote from: garrz32 on January 01, 2010, 07:56:57 AM
Picked this up yesterday,thanks for the Guide EOJ.....very useful,just one thing...how the hell do you guys get such high scores. :-[
Get the recharging down. Basically, when you're about to exit the power up mode, fill the screen with crowns and suck them in after you've reverted back to the normal playing mode. Doing this successfully will max your item counter and you're ready to power up again.
4.6 Item acquisition total (+Value)
The item acquisition total, or "+Value", is the core scoring system in the game. When you reach 1000 on the item counter in normal mode, or when you enter Power-up mode, every item absorbed adds to your +Value, which acts as a point bonus added to every item you absorb. It is displayed next to your character as it increases. The maximum +Value is +10,000, which is colored a bright orange. When you reach this, you enter "Fever mode".
I am playing X360 mode and i don't understand how you enter fever mode. I don't see the counter that you describe unless this is a feature of a different mode and i tried them all. Can someone explain this aspect of the game a little better for me? I apologize if i overlooked the obvious, Thanks
Quote from: lawnspic on March 01, 2010, 02:47:16 PM
4.6 Item acquisition total (+Value)
The item acquisition total, or "+Value", is the core scoring system in the game. When you reach 1000 on the item counter in normal mode, or when you enter Power-up mode, every item absorbed adds to your +Value, which acts as a point bonus added to every item you absorb. It is displayed next to your character as it increases. The maximum +Value is +10,000, which is colored a bright orange. When you reach this, you enter "Fever mode".
I am playing X360 mode and i don't understand how you enter fever mode. I don't see the counter that you describe unless this is a feature of a different mode and i tried them all. Can someone explain this aspect of the game a little better for me? I apologize if i overlooked the obvious, Thanks
The +Value counter is near your character and only visible when you collect score items (or absorb suicide bullets) in power up mode or in normal mode when you've maxed the item counter.
When you max the +Value counter (+10000), you enter fever mode and you get tons of gold crowns from enemies. Basically all scoring is made in the fever mode.
Remember, when you're in power up mode,
always let superior score items break into smaller ones, because they're worth more and will fill the +Value much faster.
Thanks for the help, i appreciate it.
Quote from: Ast-Kot on June 15, 2009, 06:29:42 AM
I've seen the follet 400+ posted on Niko Niko....Someone know why the guy start the first stage with 120+ of counter? ;)
Tutorial glitch (similiar to the one in ESPGaluda II). It was removed from the 360 port.
IIRC it's still there in arcade mode but was removed from 360 mode. It's the same with Galuda II
Quote from: cstarflare on July 09, 2010, 01:54:29 PM
IIRC it's still there in arcade mode but was removed from 360 mode. It's the same with Galuda II
The glitch has never worked for me in the port of DS, regardless of mode.
Can someone go into explaining the bomb recharge technique a little more deeply? I am trying to get it on the volcano stage in practice mode but I can't seem to get it.
I understand that in Power-Up mode you want to let big items break into smaller ones, but does that still apply in +10,000/Fever mode? Do I still want to let them break apart or do I then want to resume grabbing orange crowns?
Quote from: Special World on March 23, 2011, 08:25:03 PM
I understand that in Power-Up mode you want to let big items break into smaller ones, but does that still apply in +10,000/Fever mode? Do I still want to let them break apart or do I then want to resume grabbing orange crowns?
You will want to always break them apart while in power up mode + fever mode. Because one gold crown in fever mode would be 2000+10000 which equals 12000. If you break it into 4 skulls, it would be (100+10000)x4 which equals 40400.
Another thing: I watched a superplay a while back, and the player did something on the forest stage which amounts to bombing out of power-up mode and nabbing a bunch of point items, recharging their gauge to 1000 instantly. Is there a certain trick to this? Were they killing the plant-snake enemies to get them to drop big crowns, then bombing to exit power-up mode to nab the crowns, or did the bomb itself kill the plants, emitting crowns?
Quote from: Special World on March 24, 2011, 03:42:33 PM
Another thing: I watched a superplay a while back, and the player did something on the forest stage which amounts to bombing out of power-up mode and nabbing a bunch of point items, recharging their gauge to 1000 instantly. Is there a certain trick to this? Were they killing the plant-snake enemies to get them to drop big crowns, then bombing to exit power-up mode to nab the crowns, or did the bomb itself kill the plants, emitting crowns?
I'm guessing you're talking about the Ivy plants at the end of the stage.
The bomb killed the plants to produce max gold crowns and to get out of power up mode. The only thing you need to do for this to work is be in fever mode+powerup mode and hold A+B when bombing.
It's a common and easy technique for the forest stage.
You are an extremely helpful individual!
Sorry to keep bombarding you with questions (and multi-posting) but I just ask them as they occur to me.
Is there any set difference between the A and B types for characters? I don't know if there's any sort of guideline to go by when choosing my characters, and I usually just end up picking B-type for no reason at all. It would probably help if I could read the text below them, but alas, I cannot.
Been playing this a lot more recently, it just keep growing on me. I usually use Rosa since she slays bosses, but I've been using Follett recently and she's pretty awesome, too. Don't much care for Windia, and I hate playing as Casper.
Got that bomb trick off; that was a hell of a lot of point items. I loved it :D
Then I got hit by Whroom because I'm a dummy -_-
The choice your get after picking a character is whether you want to see the tutorial (top option) or not.
Well, I feel kinda dumb now -_-
Thanks!
Quote from: Special World on March 24, 2011, 07:38:19 PMSorry to keep bombarding you with questions (and multi-posting) but I just ask them as they occur to me.
It's fine. We all have to start somewhere