CAVE-STG

Presented By CAVE => CAVE Games => Topic started by: SuperPang on April 21, 2010, 06:38:31 AM

Title: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: SuperPang on April 21, 2010, 06:38:31 AM
Very surprising email from ECL in my inbox this morning. It seems IGS are marketing Daioujou for Taiwan on the PGM2 system, much in the same way as they did with KOF 98 UM (blue hardware).
Anyone heard any details?

(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh126/SuperPangster/dodo.jpg)(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh126/SuperPangster/igs.jpg)
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: markedkiller78 on April 21, 2010, 07:23:58 AM
It's $900 for the "full set including motherboard"

I asked about artwork, so I'm guessing this is what the full set is.

Do you think this is to do with the AMI thing ending? Re-release on PGM2 seems really weird though
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: SuperPang on April 21, 2010, 07:31:21 AM
No weirder than KOF 98 UM and it will be a lot less work than that being PGM based. I forgot about AMI's distribution rights ending. That will have helped :)
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: markedkiller78 on April 21, 2010, 07:35:15 AM
But why not DOJ BL?

DOJ can be had for ?250 / $400. Ketsui and DOJ BL still demand a premium. Seems daft. If it drops to $400-500 like all the other PGM2 titles I might get semi interested.
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: SuperPang on April 21, 2010, 07:45:00 AM
I'm hoping its a v3.0 with a few things borrowed from BL. I can't imagine its a huge departure from either but if it aint broke..
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: eckart on April 21, 2010, 11:38:05 AM

A dream come true. Cavegames on cartridges.
Maybe we will get a 4 player support.:)

Did anybody know the difference between the red and blue motherboards?
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: Kiken on April 21, 2010, 12:00:49 PM
Doesn't the title for this version actually read: Dodonpachi Daioujou Tamashi?
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: thegreathopper on April 21, 2010, 03:16:16 PM
Quote from: Kiken on April 21, 2010, 12:00:49 PM
Doesn't the title for this version actually read: Dodonpachi Daioujou Tamashi?

Allegedly so, But what does that mean?
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: brentsg on April 21, 2010, 03:21:48 PM
So Ketsui on cart soon?
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: necpmf on April 21, 2010, 04:02:49 PM
DDPDOJ: Blacker than black label
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: EOJ on April 21, 2010, 04:24:05 PM
Quote from: thegreathopper on April 21, 2010, 03:16:16 PM
Quote from: Kiken on April 21, 2010, 12:00:49 PM
Doesn't the title for this version actually read: Dodonpachi Daioujou Tamashi?

Allegedly so, But what does that mean?

Tamashii = "soul"
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: pixeljunkie on May 07, 2010, 11:37:55 AM
Still REALLY curious about this one. Anyone seen/played it?
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: eckart on May 07, 2010, 03:33:44 PM

Wich modifications had king of fighters for the pgm2? Anybody knows?
-Maybe we will get this kind of polish for DOJ, too.
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: zlk on May 25, 2010, 07:39:42 PM
Here is a picture of a huge DOJ-PGM poster: http://www.ampress.co.jp/ampo_latest.htm
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: adverse on May 25, 2010, 08:23:29 PM
There was a post on Mihara's blog the other day where he confirmed the PGM version is the same version of the game, just with Cantonese text.
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: EOJ on May 25, 2010, 08:25:08 PM
"Another ver" indeed.
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: adverse on May 25, 2010, 08:28:19 PM
Yeah please folks don't burn 900 bucks on this.
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: GaijinPunch on May 25, 2010, 10:26:37 PM
What about the pellet power?
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: EOJ on May 25, 2010, 10:28:14 PM
Hong Kong retailer hype machine.
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: GaijinPunch on May 27, 2010, 04:09:48 AM
I guess that's one less game that will sit around my apartment.  Current one: DSIIX LE still in the wrapper. :)
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: EOJ on June 16, 2010, 10:16:37 PM
Writeup on the game (it's now playable at Mikado Arcade) w/ pics and a 25min video:

http://moon.ap.teacup.com/qwertyuiop/1216.html

It has both an "Easy" mode and an "Original" mode (Black Label is not included). Original's bullets don't speed up as much as in the original DOJ, so maybe they toned down the rank. Some boss patterns are also different, apparently easier. Not sure about Easy mode, but it seems to have a separate scoreboard.

Finally, the board saves scores after power down!

Also note the title screen says "2010 Cave".

(http://moon.ap.teacup.com/qwertyuiop/timg/middle_1276619765.jpg)
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: emphatic on June 17, 2010, 02:03:59 AM
Does the PGM2 have stereo sound, or just plain mono? That's the only reason I see for ever owning one of these instead of the PCB (except for it saving scores).
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: ave on June 17, 2010, 06:18:55 AM
The extends are set down to 10 and 30 mio. BL was 20 and 50, regular DOJ at 40 and 90 if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: moozooh on June 17, 2010, 06:56:39 AM
You are, though, regular DOJ was 10 and 30 as well.
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: SuperPang on June 17, 2010, 07:07:33 AM
Cheers EOJ. This is back on my wanted list now. Next price cut perhaps.
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: brentsg on June 17, 2010, 12:05:55 PM
Have any vendors had price cuts to date on this?
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: thegreathopper on June 17, 2010, 04:46:35 PM
Quote from: emphatic on June 17, 2010, 02:03:59 AM
Does the PGM2 have stereo sound, or just plain mono? That's the only reason I see for ever owning one of these instead of the PCB (except for it saving scores).

PGM2 only has mono which is a big shame.
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: Kaneda on August 08, 2010, 11:40:37 PM
I played Easy mode the other day and while it was indeed easier, it wasn't the pushover I was expecting. Otherwise, seemed like the same ole DOJ, so unless you're a real collector I wouldn't bother buying the cart.
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: SuperPang on August 09, 2010, 07:38:58 AM
I have this :facepalm:

I'm no DOJ hexpert and it's been several months since I played it (and that was BL) so I find it hard to spot differences in Original mode. Most people who've seen the Nico footage seem to concur bullets are a tad slower. Easy mode however, is really rather neat. Like Kaneda said, it's no "Novice" mode that's for sure but the more you play, the more you notice, especially later in the game. Certain bullet patterns are significantly slowed down and some of the more manic ones (bosses etc) are reduced. Basically, it's DOJ but a bit more easy going and the changes give you more options where DOJ got a bit crazy. Feels like a mere mortal could ICC it.
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: EOJ on November 01, 2010, 05:41:11 AM
Pic of the PCB:

(http://star.ap.teacup.com/kibanist/timg/middle_1278175344.jpg)

http://star.ap.teacup.com/kibanist/734.html
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: SuperPang on November 01, 2010, 07:36:51 AM
There's a red version too?  ???
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: emphatic on November 01, 2010, 07:53:46 AM
Quote from: SuperPang on November 01, 2010, 07:36:51 AM
There's a red version too?  ???

Is your's blue?
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: SuperPang on November 01, 2010, 07:54:16 AM
Yep
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: Muchi Muchi Spork on June 26, 2012, 08:07:42 PM
Here is my Day 1 review.

The Easy Mode is pretty nice. I wouldn't call it easy but it's definitely easier than Original or Black Label. As already stated, the bullets are slower, so you have more options for how you dance around them, and you have more time to figure out if you have an imminent death approaching to hit bomb. So the more efficient use of bombs definitely eases the difficulty off a bit sort of how it was in Dodonpachi in the later levels especially if you use Shotia. Getting the 1-ALL still got my nerves completely jacked though. It's a nice mode. People who feel like White and Black are unreachable goals will love this mode.

Sound quality is maybe slightly improved, or maybe it's my mind playing a trick. It sounds like you took the original files and played them through slightly better hardware. The woman's voice in stage 1 sounds a tad prettier, there is more and deeper bass, and the frequency range seems slightly better. Certain highs are more pronounced so certain percussion instruments are slightly more noticeable in areas. But it could be my mind playing a trick. Also there seems to be some odd choices for loop locations of the music in some levels. Check my Easy Mode video, it probably has examples.

There is a marquee included. This board comes up as version 201 China region. The original was 100. So maybe the original kits didn't have a marquee. There is also a move strip, game instructions, and system instructions.

The pcb box has the cart sticker on it which I've scanned:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/nftnlt

Attract mode:
http://youtu.be/9H85Vx27YLw

Easy Mode 1-ALL:
http://youtu.be/FB8hz6cwDWo

Kit:
http://i46.tinypic.com/o0azhg.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/v430uh.jpg

There are 4 system difficulty levels, Easy, Normal, Hard, Very Hard. It defaults to Easy if you reset system settings so that is what I have it at in the videos. At some point I'll scan the strip and marquee if nobody else has but the marquee still has the protective plastic layer on it and the insane collector in me doesn't want to peel it off. I'll take it apart at some point to get pics of the actual pcbs as well.

It's hard for me to compare the Original Mode in it to anything because it has just been the Black Label board that I've played for..ever. Considering the conversion roms floating around where you can turn a White into Black, I wouldn't say this is a replacement for the original release, and not really for everyone. Although it isn't important, physically the system looks err, better than any arcade hardware ever?

Looks beautiful:
http://i49.tinypic.com/1ph2fs.jpg

I think Blue is China and Red is Taiwan(?). Here's my boot screen:

(http://i50.tinypic.com/ixr390.png)
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: Dave_K. on June 27, 2012, 12:30:50 AM
Thanks for posting your review on this.

Quote from: Muchi Muchi Spork on June 26, 2012, 08:07:42 PMIt's hard for me to compare the Original Mode in it to anything because it has just been the Black Label board that I've played for..ever.

Wait, so original mode in the PGM2 version is black label?  Does it give you the option of white or black when you start original?
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: Muchi Muchi Spork on June 27, 2012, 12:37:49 AM
No the Black Label is not in this PGM2 game at all. I mean I've been playing my Black Label board forever so that's the version I'm used to / more able to compare stuff to.
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: emphatic on June 27, 2012, 06:29:33 AM
Thanks for the review!
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: SuperPang on June 27, 2012, 06:56:46 AM
No marquee here. Boo!
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: Muchi Muchi Spork on June 27, 2012, 02:17:51 PM
pcb pics
http://www.sendspace.com/file/0n1gzt
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: THE on June 28, 2012, 07:56:00 AM
Does it still use the ICS2115 for Sound? Or does it have a Yamaha on it? I can't make it out clearly from the pics...if it's Yamaha which model number is it?
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: Muchi Muchi Spork on June 28, 2012, 10:39:43 AM
According to a friend who checked his it's a YMZ774-S. I don't feel like taking mine apart again quite yet...
Title: Re: DOJ coming to PGM2!
Post by: THE on June 28, 2012, 10:54:55 AM
Sounds about right. Apparently Mame already has a stub driver for the PGM2.