Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu [CAVE 2008]

[Shalashaska]

Am I the only one that doesn't really care for ridiculously large scores? It just sort of cheapens the experience for me, I don't know. Maybe I'm just bitter because I can't break the 200 million mark on DOJ.

[Ast-Kot]

A vid of a good first stage of a 5+billion runs today.....

http://www.megaupload.com/it/?d=4X4HV053

SMN

[EOJ]

Nice hand-drawn maps of stages 1 & 2:

http://www3.diary.ne.jp/logdisp.cgi?user=343869&log=20080604

[SuperPang]

Cave are taking PCBs back to fix the counter

oh and throwing in an extra character to say sorry!

[sven666]

oh and throwing in an extra character to say sorry!

heres hoping its another mecha-loli!! haha..

[drboom]

Cave are taking PCBs back to fix the counter

oh and throwing in an extra character to say sorry!

Did they give you a specific 'fix' list?

[elf]

Nice hand-drawn maps of stages 1 & 2:

http://www3.diary.ne.jp/logdisp.cgi?user=343869&log=20080604

sweet
talk about mspaint is awesome

[MrMonkeyMan]

Cave are taking PCBs back to fix the counter

oh and throwing in an extra character to say sorry!

Did they give you a specific 'fix' list?

This is what the email said.

Cave recall Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu due to Game score is not enough high.
Will you send them back PCB for change and will send it with one caracter
Added , Cave said

I first read it as they will add an extra digit to the score, but an extra playable character would be nice.

[elf]

Cave recall Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu due to Game score is not enough high.
Will you send them back PCB for change and will send it with one caracter
Added , Cave said

I first read it as they will add an extra digit to the score, but an extra playable character would be nice.

i also guessed they actually meant an additional digit with "character" and not a playable one

[Budloc]

that doesn't solve the problem that 5th stage worth 90 Billions and the other stages only 10 Billions.

[zlk]

The way I read it is that character just means extra digit.  I hope I am wrong as there is extra space in the selection menu for a new type of ship, but I seriously doubt this will happen.

[SuperPang]

Actually, you may be right. Quote Yumi:

"Cave recall DAFUKKATSU  for expand score and one caracter add"

I might check that...

[jpj]

hope you guys get sorted out

[Plasmo]

that doesn't solve the problem that 5th stage worth 90 Billions and the other stages only 10 Billions.

That's a common "problem" 90% of Cave shmups have. There's absolutely no need to change that.

[jpj]

you might double your score from a stage 5, typically; but not increase your score by x10  

especially as this is 1-5, from a 2-loop game...

[EOJ]

They'll likely have to make that extra digit cross over into an alphabetic system when it passes 9, like in Ibara. 1+trillion may be possible in the Ura loop, after all.

[GaijinPunch]

They'll likely have to make that extra digit cross over into an alphabetic system when it passes 9, like in Ibara. 1+trillion may be possible in the Ura loop, after all.

I think that's more for show than anything.  Showing in hex is just a different representation of the same number.  The limits are still the same (although in Ibara's case I'm sure it's a hex value + an integral value).

[bitkid]

They probably knew this was gonna happen all along but had to get the game out due to internal pressure.

[zakk]

They'll likely have to make that extra digit cross over into an alphabetic system when it passes 9, like in Ibara. 1+trillion may be possible in the Ura loop, after all.

I think that's more for show than anything.  Showing in hex is just a different representation of the same number.  The limits are still the same (although in Ibara's case I'm sure it's a hex value + an integral value).

If the limit is based on string length then it gives you a higher limit. And in the case of DFK it looks like it was a 'we don't have anymore room on the screen' issue. Especially since 99,999,999,999 makes no sense as any sort of hardware/space related limitation.


Cave is hilariously arbitrary about stuff like this. The Futari counter stop is a great example. It's not like rolling over to 4 billion would have taken any more screen space, and they had at least 294 million more points to go before rolling over a 32 bit unsigned int. But the counter didn't stop at 4,294,967,296. It stopped at a number with a bunch of nines. It just looks cooler.


(also it's not hex!)

[SuperPang]

Dear Joe
Thank you for your email.
Cave will add a characeter with replacement PCB.
Your kindly cooperation is highly appreciated.

I'm still confused. Maybe Yumi got the wrong idea from Cave herself.

[GaijinPunch]

Maybe Yumi got the wrong idea

Apparently not a stretch.

[lowemark]

from shmups.com

Just announced on mixi :
Version 1.5 is due on the 24th of June.

Changes here:
・プレイヤーキャラクター２機種に加え、新たに１機種を追加！！
・ゲーム仕様のバランスを一部再調整しました。
・点数の上限桁数を増やしました。

Roughly translated:
- 1 new type of ship with 2 different control schemes
- Balance adjustments
- The number of digits for the score has been increased (by how many digits is not known)

[SuperPang]

Well props to Cave for sorting that out so quickly

[Ast-Kot]

It will arrive this tuesday at Alpha Station:D

[Kaneda]

There's a no-miss Hibachi replay up now: http://b-board.rdy.jp/torrent/details.php?info_hash=f31dc900b061a6781b766413daeab6c49678c49f

Those Japanese kids really wrecked this game.

[EOJ]

Changes in ver 1.5, according to Mikado staff, who already have their PCB:

-The new ship is the green helicopter.
-The score's upper limits have been increased (they don't mention how many digits were added)
-The bomb stock has been reduced. Even if you pick up a bomb item with zero lives left,
it does not fill your bomb stock to maximum.
-A new "autobomb" feature, like in Mushi's Arrange mode, has been added as a way to appeal to beginners.
They don't mention if this is a feature you can optionally use or not, but I sure hope it's optional.

[elf]

Changes in ver 1.5, according to Mikado staff, who already have their PCB:

-The new ship is the green helicopter.
-The bomb stock has been reduced. Even if you pick up a bomb item with zero lives left,
it does not fill your bomb stock to maximum.

awesome

[EOJ]

First vid of 1.5, using the new green helicopter:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm3751332

You can see they changed the score display on top - you now have your score, and the high score on the far right, but no 2P score. When you play 2P simultaneous the all time high score is replaced by the 2P's score. It looks like they added 2 digits to the score.

The autobomb is not selectable, it's just part of the bomb style now. This really sucks. You'll probably have to use power style if you're serious about score.

The scoring has increased by 2x-3x. So the same pattern in ver 1.0 that net you 120mil will net you 350mil or so.
The extends are now set at 1bil and 10bil. Why they felt the need to increase the scoring is anyone's guess. Pretty silly if you ask me.

Overall it looks a lot like an Arrange mode on a console port. :/I have close to zero interest in this game now. I'm not a fan of these changes.

[elf]

vid doesnt work for me.
There only is a black screen with some kanji and a lot of W's scrolling from the right to the left, propably the comments, just the video itself is missing

[jpj]

be patient while it loads