Mushihimesama Futari ver 1.5 [JP XBOX 360, 2009] REGION FREE W/ SCANLINES

[brentsg]

To get quiet sticks you'll have to move away from microswitches.  The only ones I'm familiar with used an optical mechanism but they don't exist for the 360.  Maybe there is a quiet piece of crap out there somewhere but that would defeat the point.

I'd suggest getting used to it.  If you're properly in the zone you won't hear the stick.

[Megalixir]

The NeoPad2 has a clicky stick which is easily drowned out by game music. I can't replicate my runs on it (nor a real full Seimitsu stick for that matter) like I can my Saturn pad though.

Also, jesus christ. Just play with whatever you feel suits you best.

[NR777]

Also, jesus christ. Just play with whatever you feel suits you best.

This.

[lam47]

I made sticks for a long time and most people will prefer one thing over another.
And if the sticks in the cabs are not clicking then they are either broken, drowned out my the noise of the arcade or cheap weak switches.
You can dampen the sound by adding foam around the inside of the stick if it pisses you off too much.
Hope its OK to post pictures.

[Monouchi]

Very nice sticks. 

[AlephNull]

Wow, those are really beautiful sticks lam47. Thanks for the foam tip, I'll try that for my PC stick.

[lam47]

Thanks guys. I must have made around 40 sticks all in all.
The first one was for Superpang quite a few years ago. I miss making them and hope to try again in the new year.
Merry Christmas everyone

[bcass]

I'd be very tempted to buy one of those if you can do a 360/USB version.

[lam47]

I have done lots of 360 ones. Wireless as well as wired. If I do start to make some more in the new year I will post on here.

[CastorKrieg]

Can anyone tell me if 260mln in Novice Original is good or bad (counter was 40K at the end)? 1CC'ed it, since this is my first CAVE game I didn't know what to expect. Will start working on Original now.

[Hive]

"good" compared to who? The shmup freaks at STG?
Or the guys who played Raiden Trad a couple times when they were 14?

When I was playing a set of Futari, some of my buddies just stood around with their mouths gaped open like "wtf is going on...?" lol
They couldn't believe what I was able to do, and it was one of my worst gameplays..

If anybody here thinks that ANYONE can play bullet hells and score, you're fooling yourselves.
I'd say that any score into the 2-hundred millions shows that you're doing fine! ^^

[EOJ]

Can anyone tell me if 260mln in Novice Original is good or bad (counter was 40K at the end)? 1CC'ed it, since this is my first CAVE game I didn't know what to expect. Will start working on Original now.

I'll be honest, because I don't think it's productive to be disingenuous to people with sub-par scores and say "hey, you're doing great!". 260mil is not a good score in Novice Original (I'd say you'd need at least 300mil to have a "decent" score), but keep in mind it takes a lot of time to get good at these games. If you are relatively new to the genre, it takes even more time. But the enjoyment from these games comes from gradually seeing your scores improve, so keep working at it, and enjoy the process.  

First thing I'd suggest is ditch the Novice modes entirely, and start working on 1.5's Original mode, which is the easiest of the original arcade game. Going back to the dumbed down, super-easy, autobombified console modes will just condition you toward easier difficulty levels, when you should be trying to condition yourself toward the opposite. These games are not as daunting as they appear, they just require practice and dedication. Expect it to take many months before you see marked improvements. If you don't want to put the time in, you most likely won't get any better.

[moozooh]

If that was your first 1CC and you weren't aiming for a high score in the first place, the answer is always going to be "no, it's not".

At least that applies to games with scoring systems to speak of.

[CastorKrieg]

THx for answers, this was my first attempt in which I came to grasp with scoring system, so I guess the score was not that great.

Will start on 1.5 Original then, is there any change between Arcade and X360 apart from HD graphics, etc.?

[NR777]

I definitely agree with EOJ on ditching the novice modes.  Played around with them myself after first getting the port so I could get into the scoring system, but it can introduce some very bad habits...like not bombing when it is absolutely necessary to do so.  Consequently, I find myself eating shit in 1.5 many more times than I should be...though taking a fall on the ice and injuring my arm hasn't helped matters much...

[CRI]

question at the few people who never had a freeze at black label what's the size of the hdd you use?
i upgraded from a 20 to 60 gb hdd today and never had a freeze again.
with my 20 gb hdd i had 1 freeze every run at BL and now with the new one no freeze for 2 hours.

[brentsg]

120GB here and never a freeze but I can't see why that would matter.

[emphatic]

60GB, no freeze. 

[EOJ]

Good news. I have a 120GB hdd now, so hopefully it won't freeze on me when I buy BL this weekend.

[Megalixir]

120gb and it freezes from time to time.

[EOJ]

Another myth debunked.

[Kaneda]

Re: the Novice modes, I think they made them unfortunately easy. So many posters on the shmups forum are boasting of beating them on their first try as if they've suddenly woken up to some new skills, but really guys, if every single person has done it how proud can you feel? If it encourages players to stick with the other modes, that's cool, but it really just emphasizes the worst part of the (ugh) 1CC culture.

At any rate, I decided to do a run with my eyes closed and made it past the 2nd stage mid-boss. Best part was no-miss/no-bombing the first boss. Just another feather in my cap.

Re: BL freezing, it's never happened to me and I'm on the 120 GB.

[EOJ]

I remember having a little contest, ages ago, with the peeps on ikaruga.co.uk of playing blind in Ikaruga. I think someone made it to the second stage.

[NR777]

Re: the Novice modes, I think they made them unfortunately easy. So many posters on the shmups forum are boasting of beating them on their first try as if they've suddenly woken up to some new skills, but really guys, if every single person has done it how proud can you feel? If it encourages players to stick with the other modes, that's cool, but it really just emphasizes the worst part of the (ugh) 1CC culture.

I completely agree with this.  My first time playing Novice Original resulted in a no miss clear...and I am by no means "bragging" about that.  I wouldn't, by any stretch of the imagination, consider myself a very skilled player...so the boasting I'm seeing online bothers me a bit.  These modes just make it very difficult to die and instill false confidence in the player. 

[Monouchi]

Just have to chime in how impressive I am with the port.
Yeah, I am very late but I went to Indonesia on vacation for a month, and my game came to my post box the day after I left... 

Ordered it in August from PA and got the DLC card.
Im so impressed with the HD graphics, now even my old eyes can keep track of the bullets.
And all the screen options....very impressive.

Only bug I found was music stutter in last stage.

Off topic: I bought an Madcatz fightstick (sanwa parts) and is it only me or does it feel incredible slow to play with, I have to move my hand many millimeters before it registers movement in the switch.
What joystick arcade part should I get thats more sensitive...? 
(Hm, should we start a Joystick thread?)

[Hive]

Re: the Novice modes, I think they made them unfortunately easy. So many posters on the shmups forum are boasting of beating them on their first try as if they've suddenly woken up to some new skills, but really guys, if every single person has done it how proud can you feel? If it encourages players to stick with the other modes, that's cool, but it really just emphasizes the worst part of the (ugh) 1CC culture.

I completely agree with this.  My first time playing Novice Original resulted in a no miss clear...and I am by no means "bragging" about that.  I wouldn't, by any stretch of the imagination, consider myself a very skilled player...so the boasting I'm seeing online bothers me a bit.  These modes just make it very difficult to die and instill false confidence in the player. 

true, it does instill some false confidence.
On the plus side, the Novice mode makes it more accessible to Shmup noobs and girls.  

[KOMA]

Xbox elite,120gb,freeze.

[emphatic]

Xbox elite,120gb,freeze.

1. How much free space do you have on your HDD?
2. At what resolution do you play (16:9/4:3)
3. What output do you use (HDMI, VGA, Scart, etc)

I think that the higher res in combination with not enough free storage makes the game freeze. There may be some buffering going on that uses virtual memory on the HDD.

I have a 60gb hdd, and have only installed DeathSmiles + MBL, DOJ BLEX and Futari + BL & 1.01. I do have some game demos + clips as well, but I think I have at least 70% of free space on my drive. I also use a VGA output @ 480p.

I have never had any issues with graphics nor stutter using this setup, but when running the game at a friends house with a higher res yet still on a 4:3 screen we saw big purple blocks on the second boss' body. Changed it to a 4:3 resolution @ 480p and no more graphical glitches.

Sorry if this is getting overly technical.

[Megalixir]

I have about 55gb left. I play Futari in 640x on a tate'd crt monitor. Theory busted.

[Kewing]

I play at 4:3 on a 14'' CRT TV, with an Elite XBOX 120GB with 70 GB or so of free space, and I don't I have experienced any of those long freezes. The only thing close to it occurs when cancelling a lot of bullets when destroying a huge enemy, like the last big dragon on Stage 5. And yep, I also bought BL.

Somewhat related: BL is quite fun overall, I like the overall tweaks on every mode, except for the bosses. They are too sped up, and feel a tad bit "broken".